SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

[Stylewords]

Thought I'd update on this as I've just took delivery of a SS24 Clissold suit, which is superb.

In my normal S&M size which I've taken for 5+ years, the front and back rise on the new high rise is much improved. There is more room in the upper block, i.e hip and thigh as someone recently posted on the side by side pics, this is a welcome change for me.

From the knee downwards I'd like a little less taper, leg opening on a 34 contemporary is 8". Could have done with an additional 0.5" on the half measurement then they would have been close to my MTM specs, but for RTW I'm very happy.

Some additional updates are on the way for the FW24 pattern which will add a bit more fullness.

An 8-inch opening, particularly with fuller upper block, is just comical. It's a mystery why they do this. It doesn't look good.

 

[XxLogo]

Fossati in Como has all of the existing looms now so I think you assumption is correct.

So I asked Rick on Instagram. Looks like they worked with a factory in China who bought old looms and refurbished them to working condition. Took about 2 years.

So, the fabric is both made and cut in China.

 

[DapperPhilly]

So I asked Rick on Instagram. Looks like they worked with a factory in China who bought old looms and refurbished them to working condition. Took about 2 years.

So, the fabric is both made and cut in China.

Much of the clothing that comes out of Italy is made by Chinese workers.

 

[dapperclassic]

How did you come across this info/what are the actual updates?

Hate to beat the dead horse, but boy would it be great if there was a forum S&M paid for that they might utilize to keep consumers abreast of such things!

Not my style, but that looks amazing! Great tweedy vibes in a summery coat without being overly drab in color

Rick confirmed the rise had been changed and reshaped for more room/comfort, I haven't taken a tape measure to them to quantify what the actual measurement changes are, but it is noticeable as soon as you put them on.

 

[ericgereghty]

An 8-inch opening, particularly with fuller upper block, is just comical. It's a mystery why they do this. It doesn't look good.

I suppose I'd ask what you'd realistically expect with RTW? You're just not going to get 9" openings, unless you're talking about a (very) niche brand. Whatever SM may or may not be, based on their model photos, they clearly aren't hitting that niche.

Rick confirmed the rise had been changed and reshaped for more room/comfort, I haven't taken a tape measure to them to quantify what the actual measurement changes are, but it is noticeable as soon as you put them on.

Ahhhh, so nothing newer still to come?

 

[losrockets]

I suppose I'd ask what you'd realistically expect with RTW? You're just not going to get 9" openings, unless you're talking about a (very) niche brand. Whatever SM may or may not be, based on their model photos, they clearly aren't hitting that niche.

Ahhhh, so nothing newer still to come?

8.5. It seems beyond reasonable for contemporary trousers in a 34w given the silhouette of the matching +6-8 jacket. I have this same problem when I wear S&M OTR pants.

 

[BlueSteel]

Much of the clothing that comes out of Italy is made by Chinese workers.

That may be true, but I do think this is an interesting development. For years I understood Italy (and specifically Como) had a lock on grenadine material. And I found that grenadine ties were relatively expensive and rarely discounted. With S&M jumping in using Chinese-made material plus Chinese construction of the ties, I'd expect lower pricing right out of the gate (anyone know what they will be initially offered for?)...plus some of the usual significant S&M discounting along the product cycle.