The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

[jischwar]

Iconic or not, imo Vass' F last is far superior to both EG's 82/202 and GG's GG06 lasts in terms of aesthetics. But that's a personal preference of course.

Spoiler: F vs GG06

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Spoiler: F vs 82

The EG is out of his balance/symmetry, imo.
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Spoiler: P2, F, 202, 82, U

The 82 is a little snoutier, the 202 is classic, the F the golden mean, imo.
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EG 82/202 are more anatomical, probably why they fit people better

 

[MrFingers]

Iconic or not, imo Vass' F last is far superior to both EG's 82/202 and GG's GG06 lasts in terms of aesthetics. But that's a personal preference of course.

Spoiler: F vs GG06

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Spoiler: F vs 82

The EG is out of his balance/symmetry, imo.
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Spoiler: P2, F, 202, 82, U

The 82 is a little snoutier, the 202 is classic, the F the golden mean, imo.
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Agreed. I had the opportunity to get the EG over the vass at the same price.

But I think the difference between the lasts isn’t stated here and it’s something a lot of people don’t think about. The balance of non elongated lasts.

You’ll see a lot of people with long feet for their height wearing super elongated shoes and it just throws the entire thing out of balance. Even if the details look better (arguably and subjective) on EG, the last isn’t as balanced but ofc this point only applies to those with larger feet to height ratio.

I have 2 Dovers on 606 last and they’re both really nice, both EG and Vass feel like a tank. That being said, I wouldn’t get EG oxfords or regular derbies I think they only stand out on Piccadilly design and split toe derbies. The vass design is pretty remarkable for derbies and oxfords from what I’ve seen.

 

[acconrad]

EG 82/202 are more anatomical, probably why they fit people better

That's it for me. Also, personally, I like the 82 compared to F just looking at those pictures you compared. To each his own

 

[jischwar]

That's it for me. Also, personally, I like the 82 compared to F just looking at those pictures you compared. To each his own

Definitely to each their own. 🤣

 

[Son Of Saphir]

Really that MUCH BETTER than GYW EG and Lobb ?

Yes.
Vass soles are sewn differently than E.G/Lobb rtw.
Vass welts are attached differently than E.G/Lobb.
Vass hand usually construction has the effect of having shoe molding better to foot.
The nature of machine construction restricts the molding effect on foot.
Top shoemakers have also discussed these things.

Look at the Budapest last shoe with double sole.
Flexible and almost feel like a sneaker.

Vass is world's apart from factory shoe.
It feel very different to shoe connoisseur.

 

[Son Of Saphir]

To me...
Wearing Lobb or EG is like wearing a box on the foot.
Wearing Lattanzi or Vass is like wearing a shoe on the foot.
The real deal shoe experience comes from a combination of hand welted and hand stitched soles. Many on the forums don't seem to realise this,
but some men do know.
Artisinal constructions are done for many reasons.

 

[SimonC]

To me...
Wearing Lobb or EG is like wearing a box on the foot.
Wearing Lattanzi or Vass is like wearing a shoe on the foot.
The real deal shoe experience comes from a combination of hand welted and hand stitched soles. Many on the forums don't seem to realise this,
but some men do know.
Artisinal constructions are done for many reasons.

This ^^^ but to the last point above, it’s better experienced with a traditional Vass last like the P2 or Budapester. I appreciate my U-last shoes for a different reason, but they’re not quite as comfortable

And to add some interest - here’s my latest order, U last loafers….

 

[Son Of Saphir]

Nicholas Templeman will also explain why a hand stitched soles are better than any machine stitched soles.
How a machine stitch impacts the functioning of a sole is vastly different from how a hand stitch impacts a sole's functioning.

 

[JUAN MANUEL]

Norwegers in P last. I am pondering a MTO of Norwegers in boots, maybe.

 

[mebiuspower]

TIFF Screening

 

[MrFingers]

Alt wien in brown museum calf with metal toe tips just came in. These are just glorious. Absolutely stunning. Next commission will likely be black cap toe oxfords and a pair of oxblood museum in some form.

 

[Mr Stevens]

My first pair of Vass arrived today. I've got only one question....
.... Wtf was I doing all this time messing around with all these other brands. These are truly beautiful.

(Sorry the pic is terrible)

 

[Pascal1980]

Hello everybody,

I am new in the styleforum, because since 1.5 years I am updating my wardrobe. In the past I really never cared. As all was worn out, not fitting in size, and my cheap cemented shoes fell apart despite best efforts of care, I invested into GYW shoes.

I am wearing mostly Heinrich-Dinkelacker in the slim "Milano" last and the regulat "Luzern" last. Also Lloyd 1888, which is probably not known at all in the USA, which are made in Sullingen, Germany. And a Crockett & Jones "Hoxton" on their 360 last, which now fits well but first was painfully narrow.

Now I tried the F-Last in VASS in UK 7,5, which fits quite well, and the U-Last in UK 8 that also fits well.

Question: Is the quality of the shoes still that high? They use LeFa in the heal block, nor real stacked leather. What I like are the MTO options, the bargain prices compared to Crockett & Jones, and that they can adjust the last a little bit.

Or do the englisch shoemakers from Northhampton still over an overall better quality, albeit at a higher price?

Best satorial regards and greetings from Frankfurt

Pascal

 

[Pascal1980]

Hello everybody,

the VASS test shoes arrived. The F-last in UK 7.5 / EU 41.5 fits nicely. Only a small pressure point under the "Oxford Half-Moon" as I have a slightly higher instep. That can be fixed the Mrs. Vello from VASS said. As I have a serve overpronation the heels to not touch the leather at the heel outside, which is normal. Maybe that can be fixed as well.

The U-Last in UK 8.5 is to roomy and long. Now pressure points at all and so far not to narrow. Yet it is a beautiful stylish last.

Here are photos. What do you think as you are more familiar with VASS?

Enjoy your evening and best regards

Pascal

 

[Jamesbond1]

4-5 years later still unworn. F last