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Curious why you say this thread has taken a sinister turn, Fad P. Critical, yes, but why sinister?
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Price hikes up to a point are fine, it is understandable. However, be transparent and don‘t tell me it is to pay government duties (which do not exist).This thread took a sinister turn.
Personally, I wouldn’t compare Rubato with Berg&Berg, as I think they are far superior in quality and style. Bryceland, yes—even if I prefer the quality of Rubato’s knits.
The price hikes, in general, have been a bit out of control for the past couple of years. But that applies to almost all brands that I buy, and I suppose a big reason is the increasing costs of materials, manufacturing, and transportation. However, I feel somewhat like a boiling frog, as one day I found myself considering buying a sweater for $1000.
Ha, maybe a bad word choice. But it seems like all the excitement for the brand got deflated overnight.Curious why you say this thread has taken a sinister turn, Fad P. Critical, yes, but why sinister?
It sure seems like that but I can totally understand the dissappointment in pricing. The US prices seem absurd and the explanations have been weird. I’m lucky that the EU prices are still the same…Ha, maybe a bad word choice. But it seems like all the excitement for the brand got deflated overnight.
Interesting. Brycelands doesn't come to mind when I think of Rubato, Berg Berg does.
Brycelands is not actually that exhorbitant in terms of pricing. Himel made jackets for pretty much the cost of a Himel. Their most recent leather jacket is $2400 USD ($250 below Himel). Their denim and denim western shirt are comparable to RRL pricing and various Japanese boutique brands.
Berg Berg and Rubato, on the other hand, strike me as a ummmm, a little like a more affordable Stoffa in some ways, and selling the much lauded Japanese denim to a CM crowd of guys who might feel like they are out of place browsing Self Edge, in other ways.
Buying a pair of denim from Berg Berg and Rubato is insanity. And their standard lambswool sweaters... well O'connels already covers them.
Rubato selling a nylon/poly web belt with 20% (maybe) cordovan similarly priced or more expansive than a 100% cordo belt from Alden or Carmina??
This is what bothers me on their instagram. I guess it's fine to post art and attribute the creator, but it seems too far to paste your brand logo within the image. Makes it seem like they are claiming it or associating it with themselves in some capacity.The snobbery attitude that Rubato has been undertaking to "maintain" their branding is borderline ridiculous.
Several of us in the US have brought this to Rubato’s — Carl and Oliver’s — attention. I know I did, via the Rubato support team, beginning on March 28. To my knowledge there’s been no response directly from either Carl or Oliver, and no reply or statement from anyone representing Rubato that makes any sense. They are likeable guys so their very poor / nonexistent communicating over these past two weeks has surprised me.Rubato's quality is similar to Bryceland's. I have both jeans, knits and denim shirts (Roper and Sawtooth). I like the cut of Bryceland's jeans (133 vs Lot 1) slightly more, but in terms of quality, they feel comparable.
I live in Europe, so I can't comment on the pricing issues in the US, but if it's true that DDP companies are pocketing the difference perhaps that should be brought to the attention of Rubato. They might fail to understand the differences in the tax system in the US or Canada relative to Europe, they are a small brand after all.
Rubato's quality is similar to Bryceland's. I have both jeans, knits and denim shirts (Roper and Sawtooth). I like the cut of Bryceland's jeans (133 vs Lot 1) slightly more, but in terms of quality, they feel comparable.
I live in Europe, so I can't comment on the pricing issues in the US, but if it's true that DDP companies are pocketing the difference perhaps that should be brought to the attention of Rubato. They might fail to understand the differences in the tax system in the US or Canada relative to Europe, they are a small brand after all.
I emailed customer service about it as well and they've also had numerous instagram comments pointing this out. Their response to me was basically, "nevertheless, this is what we're doing."Several of us in the US have brought this to Rubato’s — Carl and Oliver’s — attention. I know I did, via the Rubato support team, beginning on March 28. To my knowledge there’s been no response directly from either Carl or Oliver, and no reply or statement from anyone representing Rubato that makes any sense. They are likeable guys so their very poor / nonexistent communicating over these past two weeks has surprised me.
I mean at this point I agree with some of the previous comments in this thread. It seems they’re chasing a wealthy clientele like Drakes or Saman Amel or the Armoury where 300 vs 400+ for some chinos don’t make a difference to a person.
If they can still sell them at 400+, I’m happy for them, I just won’t buy anything from them anymore (like how I stopped buying Drakes new) and I assume they’ve factored people like me into this decision. So they’ll become a cool brand, that I can’t afford like many others.
Hi, do you normally wear 32” waist pants for other brands? I’m trying to work out what size to get. I’m normally a 32”, which is about 17” half waist when I measure the pants waist.So the measurements for the Rubato lot 1 ecru in size 31
Waist 41cm
Front rise 30
Back rise 38,5
Thigh 32,7
Thigh 10cm down from the crotch 29,5
Knee (30cm down…) 24
Hem 20,6 (last 16cm of the inseam is completely straight and hem width doesn’t change)
And size 32
Waist 42,5
Front rise 31
Back rise 38
Thigh 33,5
10cm down… 29,7
Knee 25
Hem 21,3
And the way I fold the jeans for waist measurement
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I have jeans in size 31 to 34. My advice is to check the measurements of your favourite pair and find the closest one from Rubatos measurement chart. I’ve stopped caring what the size tag says…Hi, do you normally wear 32” waist pants for other brands? I’m trying to work out what size to get. I’m normally a 32”, which is about 17” half waist when I measure the pants waist.